Are generic honorific (Pa, possibly Fraa and Suur, maybe Fid) really positions in the concent? I think Pa is definitely a familiar/relational honorific. Frass and Suur just seem like the default state for those without specific positions. Perhaps we split this page up into "Concent Roles" and "Mathic Honorifics", and link between the pages?

Tomben 04:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, Pa is a role, a job, though not used by others. (In that I think they say "I was his fid" rather than "he was my pa") There are also the roles on Orders, such as FAE, which should be documented somewhere as well It's not bad that all these be on one page, because it not only tells you the answer to "what is a pa" but shows you the context.--Bradtem 21:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)